MINUTES 1/6/00

Present: Peter Dayan, Barney Eskin, Phil Hubel, Phyllis Supino, Peter Wyer

Guests: Dan Mayer (Albany Medical College); Greg Almond, Yash Chathampally, Ron Shaw and Mona Singh (NY Medical College)

The meeting was called to order at 5:35 PM by Peter Wyer.


Minutes of the December meeting were reviewed and approved.


Barney Eskin is still awaiting receipt of 3 post-workshop quizzes. When all missing quizzes are returned, he will compare the answers on the post- with the pre-workshop quizzes. This might be one way of measuring whether the workshop imparted EBM principals to the participants. Dan Mayer uses 3 multiple choice exams to judge how well his medical students are learning EBM.

Phil Hubel sent out a survey to 16 programs asking about the impact of the workshop on their practice of EBM. He received 6 replies. Of these, the number that uses each of the following resources is: Medline 6; Ovid from the NYAM website 4; MDConsult from the NYAM website 4; the Cochrane library 4; Users' Guides 4; the NYAM/EBM web page 2; EBEM web page 2; other ebm resources 2.


Ben Yeh had suggested registering the web addresses "EBEM.NET" and "EBEM.COM" for future use at $70 each for 2 years. This was approved unanimously.


NYAM 2000

The feasibility of holding our own EM workshop was discussed. Preliminary estimates of the expenses for the 1999 NYAM workshop were obtained from Kathel Dunn. For 70 physician and 10 librarian participants, total expenses were $500-$600 per participant. Since the registration fee was $500 per physician and $295 per librarian, most of the cost was met by the registration fee. Therefore cost itself is probably not a factor in preventing our offering a separate EM workshop in the future. Furthermore, since we are officially part of NYAM, we should qualify for reduced room rates from the Academy.

A more detailed report on expenses and income will be presented by Phil Hubel at the next meeting.

Peter Dayan, the course director for the next EM EBM Workshop, thought he might be able to get secretarial/administrative help to organize the workshop at a reasonable cost. The workshop would be best given in the spring of 2001 to allow enough time to prepare for it. A 3 day workshop was felt to be optimal. Those present from the NY Medical College thought that there might be 7-10 faculty members from the NY Medical College system interested in the workshop.


Peter Dayan is organizing a Peds EM Fellow workshop for the spring of 2000.

The next monthly meeting will be held at the NY Academy of Medicine, 1215 Fifth Avenue (at 103rd St.), at 6:30 PM on Tuesday, February 1st. Food will be available.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 6:30 PM.

Respectfully submitted,

Barney Eskin